7e truck rules

Proposed rule changes are posted. See front of web page for link. You might need to allow active x to see them.

now your talkn I thought the rule meeting went well. There getting everything typed up so everybody can see it. All is good I think.

chevord wrote:You guys need to relax we haven't even had a meeting yet. We don't no whats going to go on.

I'm relaxed , I just want to get this over so the rules can be posted and we can make whatever changes are needed to be made . chevord the 799 still owes you a case of bullets we have not forgot . I would like to deliver in person . and help inspect a second case .

chevy power

Oh ya I might bring an s10 out for e class next year

You guys need to relax we haven't even had a meeting yet. We don't no whats going to go on.

hyde wrote:

gochenour322 wrote:

Rooster Racing wrote:the key words you just said there was spend money. 7e was designed to be economical to attract racers not something that needs a $1000 or more motor to even have a chance. Those trucks that ran e this year can either bump up or change back to what e was supposed to be if voted in. There is no way a 7e truck should even be competitive with a 700 truck. and Thomas this has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with making someone happy by you not being able to run 7e. this class is way out of control and is by no means economical. i still can not figure out how the stroke rule got voted in to 7e. I also think we need to invest in a pump to check not only the 7e motors but every motor in every class. I'm so sick and tired of the gray areas. Why cant people just build something within the rules and go race to their ability and not have to cheat to win?

all you need is a compresion gauge , my rule book says 150 psi for a e truck. no way can you stoke a 2.3 and still get 150 psi unless you leave the rings out .

I can . Cam timeing dish pistons i can go on but i dont have truck. compresion gauge will do litte good .

so you are going to spend money on performance parts then retard cam timing to pass tech ??

squeak707E wrote:

Rich wrote:first the question about points the person who asked this should know you pay your entry fee you break in the warm up laps or the parad lap you still get your points and never take the green flag.


7e class i just wanted all the truck guys to set down and try to find a way to reive this class. the way i see it dusten and thomas is all that is left.


rich

Im affraid to say that thomas might be the only one left in e-class. If the money is their for me to race next year im going to be running class 7. e-class is fun but i want more power, more speed, more suspension.

if i have to completly change my truck to make the e class there wont even be me in it same here money is tight cant aford to redo everything on it the e truck just needs a new body and it is ready to go again knock on wood that truck is holding up good and yes i hope we do put in there rules set for 4 years everyone i see on here has some good points to be made

Rich wrote:first the question about points the person who asked this should know you pay your entry fee you break in the warm up laps or the parad lap you still get your points and never take the green flag.


7e class i just wanted all the truck guys to set down and try to find a way to reive this class. the way i see it dusten and thomas is all that is left.


rich

Im affraid to say that thomas might be the only one left in e-class. If the money is their for me to race next year im going to be running class 7. e-class is fun but i want more power, more speed, more suspension.

My way of thinking is the drivers shouldn't do any rules. We need someone or some people that now what we do and the idea of the classes and set the rules for the class. Everybody wants to add things in that drives. Besides everybody that has been racing nows there is thins missing from the famous rule book. Then we can start fresh "maybe" Sounded good anyway.
There is something about the new rangers that I just seen is there called a mid size truck and not a mini truck anymore. When they started this I don't no.

Chevord the question about points was not directed at Rooster. It was for anyone that could give a good intelligent answer to a legitimate question.

As far as personal "issues" you think I may have..... how could you possibly know what they could be unless you had talked to me directly anything else is heresay or gossip. Any issue that I had was taken care of long before this.

Anyone who has read and studied the rules realizes there are big differences between 7 and 7e. Maybe not all class 7 racers utilize those differences in the truck they run therefore a class 7e truck that has been carefully prepared and taken advantage of what is offered is keeping up or outrunning a class7 truck. Or here is a revelation .............maybe it is DRIVER SKILL OR THE LACK OF that creates the concern.
If I understand my 98 Ranger with 2.5 will not be legal? It came from Ford with a "stroker" motor. Them cheating manufactures are at again.
Just my opinion but why penalize the 7e owners by making them redo or jump up for basically 1 truck? Why call for rules meeting at last minute..........is it an attempt to do an end run with the rules??? Has an honest attempt been made to contact all truck racers?? Isn't it all for fun??? IDEA..lets race lawnmowers it's cheap and fun to watch!
We keep trying to lure competitors from other venues. Isn't that the most important issue we have??? We can't do it the way we have been doing business so it's time to start thinking outside the box. Trying to change rules every time someone gets beat is b.........!

Looks like we need to require exo-cages a full 360 degrees to keep the bodies on them. That comment was directed to no one or everyone take your pick.
'mon people look at the big picture...it's about growth !!

first the question about points the person who asked this should know you pay your entry fee you break in the warm up laps or the parad lap you still get your points and never take the green flag.


7e class i just wanted all the truck guys to set down and try to find a way to reive this class. the way i see it dusten and thomas is all that is left.


rich

Rooster Racing wrote:the key words you just said there was spend money. 7e was designed to be economical to attract racers not something that needs a $1000 or more motor to even have a chance. Those trucks that ran e this year can either bump up or change back to what e was supposed to be if voted in. There is no way a 7e truck should even be competitive with a 700 truck. and Thomas this has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with making someone happy by you not being able to run 7e. this class is way out of control and is by no means economical. i still can not figure out how the stroke rule got voted in to 7e. I also think we need to invest in a pump to check not only the 7e motors but every motor in every class. I'm so sick and tired of the gray areas. Why cant people just build something within the rules and go race to their ability and not have to cheat to win?

ok take them back to basicly a little more that 7x you seen how well that went over no one raced it you can spend $1000 in a motor easy by the time you send it in get it cleaned checked bored if it needs to be a good set of pistons and rods so you dont have to redo it every year or two bearings ect the list can go on and still run stock parts ok we had 5 e trucks run this season so all if they dotn meet the new rules " if voted in " have to bump who is left someone waiting in the back to take over and jump in and race what a class why make it a smaller class or make the people who race it build new trucks if my 7 truck was together i would let you come over and run it then run my e truck and tell me there isnt no differenct between them there is all the difference and like i said just because it is in there dont mean you have to do it to have fun fun is the key word i always get told i have ran the stock ford ranger and i mean stock in tuff truck events before not a good idea for racing it holds up if your back and neck can

on a note steve said about the 2.5 i did some looking up online and found a toyota 22r is a 2.4 and is 2366cc a chevy is a 2.5 2474cc and if you can find a chevy 2.3 it is 2294cc they wre common in the chevy vega and a ford 2.3 duratec is a only 2261 what i see is the 2.3 ford is the smallest out of all of these manufactures now if we go to stock 2.3 are we gong to say you can only run the ford 2.3
the 2.5 came out in 98 ford rangers and was also in the 1986 ford taurus station wagon thought the 2.5 rule was put into place so people could keep up with the toyota 22r motor that is was i was told at one time not sure if it is true just something to look at before this weekend

Lets all just build a 4x4 v-8 and race in open class.

sounds to me like you have personal issues more than anything. Everybody that nows anything nows rooster doesn't do the points he just post them. VP is in charge of the points.

who in 7e have you talked to Rooster? Do they prefer to remain anonymous? Why take 2 steps backwards? you have rules in place that allow for a decent suspension........now you want to take that away?? I'll let you tell the the racers " we want you to race,but be carefull cause if you try to go fast your suspension won't work and more than likely you will hurt your back not taking into consideration the parts you will replace".But its cheap! Screw the boys that have to change their trucks to be legal. But its cheap! What is a stroker motor?? A 2.5. Let me think...............hmmm there is one in my daily driver Ford Ranger and it come from the factory like that. Them cheatin bastards! So you want to prohibit late model Rangers? If a person doesn't want to spend money to PLAY maybe they should stay on the sideline,drink beer,put their hand in their pocket and play with whatever they find! Seems rather obvious that rule enforcement is the REAL problem.
I do not want to change anything about new truck that is built to existing rules.

Oh yeah a question about the points. How do you get more than 100 show up points at a race and never take a green start flag? I'm confused. I'm sure that someone has a good explanation and I will wait to hear it.

gochenour322 wrote:

Rooster Racing wrote:the key words you just said there was spend money. 7e was designed to be economical to attract racers not something that needs a $1000 or more motor to even have a chance. Those trucks that ran e this year can either bump up or change back to what e was supposed to be if voted in. There is no way a 7e truck should even be competitive with a 700 truck. and Thomas this has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with making someone happy by you not being able to run 7e. this class is way out of control and is by no means economical. i still can not figure out how the stroke rule got voted in to 7e. I also think we need to invest in a pump to check not only the 7e motors but every motor in every class. I'm so sick and tired of the gray areas. Why cant people just build something within the rules and go race to their ability and not have to cheat to win?

all you need is a compresion gauge , my rule book says 150 psi for a e truck. no way can you stoke a 2.3 and still get 150 psi unless you leave the rings out .

I can . Cam timeing dish pistons i can go on but i dont have truck. compresion gauge will do litte good .

Rooster Racing wrote:the key words you just said there was spend money. 7e was designed to be economical to attract racers not something that needs a $1000 or more motor to even have a chance. Those trucks that ran e this year can either bump up or change back to what e was supposed to be if voted in. There is no way a 7e truck should even be competitive with a 700 truck. and Thomas this has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with making someone happy by you not being able to run 7e. this class is way out of control and is by no means economical. i still can not figure out how the stroke rule got voted in to 7e. I also think we need to invest in a pump to check not only the 7e motors but every motor in every class. I'm so sick and tired of the gray areas. Why cant people just build something within the rules and go race to their ability and not have to cheat to win?

all you need is a compresion gauge , my rule book says 150 psi for a e truck. no way can you stoke a 2.3 and still get 150 psi unless you leave the rings out .

i just hope we can get somthing done so every time rule changes are up people dont have to rebuild there trucks to race that is all i want to see build your trucks to the rules not the rules to your truck

the key words you just said there was spend money. 7e was designed to be economical to attract racers not something that needs a $1000 or more motor to even have a chance. Those trucks that ran e this year can either bump up or change back to what e was supposed to be if voted in. There is no way a 7e truck should even be competitive with a 700 truck. and Thomas this has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with making someone happy by you not being able to run 7e. this class is way out of control and is by no means economical. i still can not figure out how the stroke rule got voted in to 7e. I also think we need to invest in a pump to check not only the 7e motors but every motor in every class. I'm so sick and tired of the gray areas. Why cant people just build something within the rules and go race to their ability and not have to cheat to win?

well looks like some people will be happy then i wont be able to run 7 e next year truck wont be legal and like i said before neither will your other 7 e trucks the ones i have talked to say leave it alone just change a couple things just because the rules say you can do something dont mean you have to spend the money and the reason i see 7 e is so small is the e guys jumped to class 7

ive talked to a few truck guys and feeling im getting is delete the unused 7x class and revert 7e back to somewhere around 2006 and revise as needed to todays needs.

yes we do need to have a meeting the class reps need to get together and schedual a date any saturday is good for me

not long ago 7e was the big class now they struggle to make class, this class was intended to be a cheap class a starter class but it is not, it cost too much. there is not enough difference in 7e and 7. we need to have a truck meeting before the regular nov meeting to see if something can be done to revive this class.


rich